{"id":8294,"date":"2014-08-27T15:49:22","date_gmt":"2014-08-27T22:49:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/?p=8294"},"modified":"2016-12-21T07:27:55","modified_gmt":"2016-12-21T15:27:55","slug":"retirement-investing-four-letter-words","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/retirement-investing-four-letter-words\/","title":{"rendered":"Retirement Investing And Four-Letter Words"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The four-letter word that comes to mind most quickly when one thinks of retirement investing is probably &#8220;save&#8221; followed quickly by &#8220;more.&#8221; But I have another word in mind \u2014 &#8220;only.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the four-letter word used by <a title=\"Ignore the Stock Market, says Charley Ellis\" href=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/ignore-the-stock-market-says-charley-ellis\/?utm_source=marketriders&amp;utm_term=2014-08-27-retirement-investing-four-letter-word\/\">Charley Ellis<\/a>, widely known as the dean of retirement thinking and author of the investing classic <em>Winning the Loser&#8217;s Game<\/em>. Charley uses it as an ironic modifier in front of the percentage amount that many people pay in investing fees.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Only&#8221; 1%. That&#8217;s what the active fund managers tend to argue. Don&#8217;t worry, they tell you, we&#8217;re not taking a lot of your money. It&#8217;s &#8220;only&#8221; a tiny slice.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:2002_Penny_Proof_Obv.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-8301\" src=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/2002_Penny_Proof_Obv-800x797.png\" alt=\"retirement investing\" width=\"302\" height=\"301\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/2002_Penny_Proof_Obv-800x797.png 800w, https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/2002_Penny_Proof_Obv-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/2002_Penny_Proof_Obv-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/2002_Penny_Proof_Obv.png 902w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 302px) 100vw, 302px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I am here to tell you that &#8220;only&#8221; is a dangerous and misleading word. Because it&#8217;s not true at all.<\/p>\n<p>When a financial advisor says he or she is &#8220;only&#8221; charging you 1%, the immediate question that you should ask is, okay, 1% of what?<\/p>\n<p>The answer is: 1% of your assets. When we think of 1%, we picture a penny. That&#8217;s what 1% of a $1 is. But we don&#8217;t have $1 in retirement savings. Usually, it&#8217;s much more.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s scale that up, then. If you have $10,000 <a title=\"Best 401k Investments For Retirement Savers\" href=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/best-401k-investments-retirement-savers\/?utm_source=marketriders&amp;utm_term=2014-08-27-retirement-investing-four-letter-word\/\">saved in your 401(k) at work<\/a>, then 1% of that money is $100. If you have $20,000, it&#8217;s $200.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, you might say, I don&#8217;t expect my financial advisor to work for free. Nevertheless, you do expect your financial advisor to make a difference. You expect him or her to help you <a title=\"Index Funds Can Beat The Market, Here\u2019s How\u2026\" href=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/index-funds-can-beat-the-market-heres-how\/?utm_source=marketriders&amp;utm_term=2014-08-27-retirement-investing-four-letter-word\/\">beat the market<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In practice, however, that doesn&#8217;t happen. Most actively managed funds struggle to keep up with the markets, especially after you subtract their fees. Here&#8217;s where the &#8220;only&#8221; part kicks in. The fee is not charged on your gains. It&#8217;s charged on your total assets.<\/p>\n<p>If the stock market returns 5%, your portfolio is now up $500. But you pay the advisor $100. That&#8217;s 20% of your gain! In simple terms, 100 is one-fifth of 500. (Technically, you pay a\u00a0bit more, since your portfolio rose in value: $105).<\/p>\n<p>Scale it up again. Say you have $100,000 in an IRA. You now pay your advisor $1,000 a year to watch your money. The market delivers a 5% gain, so you get $5,000. And promptly pay your advisor his or her a 20% cut of your investment gain\u00a0\u2014 $1,000. Plus $50 more.<\/p>\n<p>Say the stock market declines. Your portfolio falls in value to $85,000. You might have <a title=\"How To Prosper In A Stock Market Panic\" href=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/prosper-stock-market-panic\/?utm_source=marketriders&amp;utm_term=2014-08-27-retirement-investing-four-letter-word\/\">the financial will not to panic<\/a> and sell, so there&#8217;s no loss.<\/p>\n<p>Still, you pay your advisor $850 that year. Remember, the fee is based on assets, not gains. It&#8217;s not performance-based at all. It&#8217;s heads-they-win, tails-you-lose.<\/p>\n<h2>Retirement investing trust<\/h2>\n<p>Arguably, a good financial advisor can help you avoid those panic moments. He or she can and should be your partner in long-term planning, too. And the assets-under-management model is not the worst way to compensate a trusted advisor.<\/p>\n<p>After all, it aligns their goals and yours: More money in your account at retirement is better for both of you. It also motivates a good advisor to <a title=\"Your Biggest Investment Risk Is You\" href=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/biggest-investment-risk\/?utm_source=marketriders&amp;utm_term=2014-08-27-retirement-investing-four-letter-word\/\">help you avoid unrecoverable losses<\/a>, especially right before retirement.<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, be very wary of the absentee advisor, the person who signs you on to a high-fee arrangement and then disappears into the woodwork. If it&#8217;s hard to get your advisor on the phone or, worse, you cannot even remember his or her name, that&#8217;s a bad sign.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;only&#8221; <a title=\"Compound Interest: Grow Your Retirement Lily Pads\" href=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/compound-interest-grow-retirement-lily-pads\/?utm_source=marketriders&amp;utm_term=2014-08-27-retirement-investing-four-letter-word\/\">your retirement<\/a>, after all.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The four-letter word that comes to mind most quickly when one thinks of retirement investing is probably &#8220;save&#8221; followed quickly by &#8220;more.&#8221; But I have another word in mind \u2014 &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marketriders.com\/investing\/retirement-investing-four-letter-words\/\">Read more <span 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